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City of Salina, Kansas
Regular Meeting of the
Board of Commissioners
September 16, 1974
The Regular Meeting of the Board of Commissioners met in the
Commissioners' Room, City -County Building, on Monday, September 16, 1974, at
four o'clock P.M.
The Mayor asked everyone to stand for the pledge of allegiance to the
Flag and a moment of silent prayer.
There were present:
Mayor W. M. Usher, Chairman presiding
Commissioner Robert C. Caldwell
Commissioner Norma G. Cooper
Commissioner Mike Losik, Jr.
Commissioner Jack Weisgerber
comprising a quorum of the Board, also:
L. 0. Bengtson,
Norris D. Olson,
D. L. Harrison,
Absent:
None
City Attorney
City Manager
City Clerk
The Minutes of the Regular Meeting of September 9, 1974, were approved
as printed.
STAFF AGENDA
A RESOLUTION was introduced and passed entitled: "A RESOLUTION
authorizing and ordering certain sanitary sewer improvements, ordering preparati
of plans and specifications and the estimate of costs. (Engineering Project
74-576 for sanitary sewers for APCO and National Bank of America). A motion was
made by Commissioner Cooper, seconded by Commissioner Losik to adopt the
Resolution as read and the following vote was had: Ayes: Caldwell, Cooper,
Losik, Weisgerber (4). Nays: (0). Mayor Usher abstained. Carried. The Mayor
approved the Resolution and it is numbered 3203.
A RESOLUTION was introduced and passed entitled: "A RESOLUTION
determining the advisability of certain street, water main, sanitary sewer, and
storm sewer improvements estimating the cost thereof, defining the boundaries of
the improvement district, method of assessment, and apportioning the cost between
the improvement district and the City -at -large." (Engineering Project 74-575 for
improvements in Country Club Estates Number 2) A motion was made by Commissioner
Weisgerber, seconded by Commissioner Caldwell to adopt the Resolution as read anc
the following vote was had: Ayes: Caldwell, Cooper, Losik, Weisgerber, Usher (5)
Nays: (0). Carried. The Mayor approved the Resolution and it is numbered 3204.
A MOTION was made by Commissioner Caldwell, seconded by Commissioner
Losik to instruct the City Clerk to publish notice to receive bids for one
vehicle for the Parking Meter Department, to be received October 7, 1974. Ayes:
(5). Nays: (0). Motion carried.
THE CITY COMMISSIONERS considered a report on the Fire Protection
Study. (The study was requested by Commissioner Losik at the August 20, 1973
meeting)
The City Manager commented, "Chief Bross will make the presentation.
I might make just a general statement, apologizing for the amount of time that
it took to prepare the report. It didn't take all that amount of time. In the
work that was done, I think though, you will recall, when the idea was presented
we told you that we had very little direction as far as preparing one of these
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studies. With some investigation we found that an agency, by the name of Public
Technology Institute had developed a model, was in the process of preparing the
data for their model for more general public use, so we contacted this agency,
which I believe is out of Chicago, and proceeded from there. We never did
actually receive from them their so called computer model; however a certain
amount of work had been done in the City of Wichita, and we had three or four
people go to Wichita to obtain information from them as to how they proceeded,
what they had done in their field work, and the like. I assigned Bill Harris to
work with the Chief and to go through some evaluating and making some value
judgements in procedure and adapting the PTI study to our situation, and of
course, we did become involved with several projects that, I guess, we put ahead
of this in some respects as far as staff time, such as budget, Bill decided to
go to the hospital for a while, then decided not to get back on the track after
he got out of the hospital for a while, so with those types of delays it was
dust the thing off and get back on it, so that is about the .. oh yes, we were
advised of PTI's work in contacting the insurance rating people, both at the
Federal and State level. This is one point that we also held up a little. It
took a little time to see what their recommendations or what success they had
with insurance rating people, ISO. There are some areas of change in the rating
system that have been effectuated somewhat, and I might just mention one because
we testified and supported, argued the point of age versus performance in fire
trucks for example. Kansas Inspection Bureau and now the Insurance Service
Office has always held when a piece of equipment got x number of years old it
was no longer of any value. You suffered so many deficiency points. Public
Technology has finally got ISO to agree to provide deficiency points based on
the performance of the equipment, regardless of age. We don't know all these
refined negotiations that went into the revision of the 1973 rating schedule.
That is another story. I think that we could possibly pursue that another time."
Chief Bross said, "Our assignment was to determine the need for
additional fire stations, manning and equipment. As we have outlined in this
study, I believe you all have one, indications are at this time that expansion
is not justified; however, we do have three borderline areas mentioned in the
report which will be pointed out later on the map. Future growth in these areas
will dictate necessary changes in fire protection coverage. Concern has been
frequently expressed about the railroads interferring with fire protection to
North Salina. This situation is not unique to our town, in fact it is a problem
in almost every city, no matter how large or small. The main railroad does offer
an obstruction, but since January 1, 1973, we have been briefly detained on only
four occasions. None of these have been of a serious nature, and they are all
outlined in the report. The last incident occurred in January, 1973. To my
knowledge, no formal record was kept of possible interference by a train prior
to January 1, 1973; however, the Fire Department does not feel that this has been
a significant obstruction to our services. We have alternate routes on 12th,
9th, Santa Fe, Ohio, Chicago, and Broadway. All the reference material we have
been able to study has seemed to indicate that we are justified in basing the
decisions we have made concerning the railroad tracks and the entire study on
past experience.
"Also you will see on exhibit, we cannot justify additional fire
protection for Southeast Salina at this time. The rate of growth in population
and tax base in the future will determine the additional need for fire protection
"Our study has been predicated primarily on response time requirement
rather than on radial or mile distance requirement, and since January 1, 1973,
we made arrival time a part of every fire report to check the response time
estimates for accuracy. These are the times that were reported in your blue
book."
Chief Bross reviewed the 5 maps on display and explained the colored
pins and the overlays.
Mayor Usher complimented the staff for the report, and commented, "I
am impressed with the detail that you have gone into and the clarity with which
it has been drawn up."
Chief Bross answered questions from the Commissioners concerning
sprinkler systems and detection devices, and explained that they tried to
initiate a master plan for fire protection for Salina with this study, and
credited the fire officers and firemen for doing all the leg work for the report.
A motion was made by Commissioner Caldwell, seconded by Commissioner
Weisgerber to accept the report. Ayes: (5). Nays: (0). Motion carried.
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THE COMMISSIONERS CONSIDERED resolutions authorizing and establishing
charges for the use of Lakewood Lodge, Memorial Hall, Salina Community Theatre,
cutting weeds in compliance with Article III of Chapter 15 of the Salina Code,
operation of the Salina Municipal golf course, and determined all should become
effective January 1, 1975.
A MOTION was made by Commissioner Losik, seconded by Commissioner
Caldwell to include a resolution concerning the cemetery rates for consideration
on the agenda. Ayes: (5). Nays: (0). Motion carried.
A RESOLUTION was introduced and passed entitled: "A RESOLUTION
authorizing and establishing certain charges and rental fees for the use of
Lakewood Lodge and repealing all existing resolutions, motions and actions
pertaining thereto." A motion was made by Commissioner Losik, seconded by
Commissioner Caldwell to adopt the Resolution as read and the following vote
was had: Ayes: Caldwell, Cooper, Losik, Weisgerber, Usher (5). Nays: (0).
Carried. The Mayor approved the Resolution and it is numbered 3205.
A RESOLUTION was introduced and passed entitled: "A RESOLUTION
authorizing and establishing certain charges and rental fees for the use of
Memorial Hall and the equipment used in connection therewith and repealing all
existing Resolutions, motions and actions pertaining thereto." A motion was made
by Commissioner Losik, seconded by Commissioner Caldwell to adopt the Resolution
as read and the following vote was had: Ayes: Caldwell, Cooper, Losik,
Weisgerber, Usher (5). Nays: (0). Carried. The Mayor approved the Resolution
and it is numbered 3206.
A RESOLUTION was introduced and passed entitled: "A RESOLUTION
authorizing and establishing certain charges and rental fees for the use of
Salina Community Theatre and Cultural Arts facilities and repealing all existing
Resolutions, motions and actions pertaining thereto." A motion was made by
Commissioner Losik, seconded by Commissioner Caldwell to adopt the Resolution
as read and the following vote was had: Ayes: Caldwell, Cooper, Losik,
Weisgerber, Usher (5). Nays: (0). Carried. The Mayor approved the Resolution
and it is numbered 3207.
A RESOLUTION was introduced and passed entitled: "A RESOLUTION
establishing the rates to be charged by the City for cutting weeds in compliance
with Article III of Chapter 15 of the Salina Code and repealing all previous
Resolutions, motions or actions in conflict therewith." A motion was made by
Commissioner Losik, seconded by Commissioner Caldwell to adopt the Resolution as
read and the following vote was had: Ayes: Caldwell, Cooper, Losik, Weisgerber,
Usher (5). Nays: (0). Carried. The Mayor approved the Resolution and it is
numbered 3208.
A RESOLUTION was introduced and passed entitled: "A RESOLUTION
authorizing and establishing charges for the operation of the Salina Municipal
Golf Course, amending Resolution Number 3082, and repealing said existing
Resolution." A motion was made by Commissioner Losik, seconded by Commissioner
Caldwell to adopt the Resolution as read and the following vote was had: Ayes:
Caldwell, Cooper, Losik, Weisgerber, Usher (5). Nays: (0). Carried. The Mayor
approved the Resolution and it is numbered 3209.
COMMISSIONER COOPER said, "I would like for someone to clarify for the
golf cart users, I visited with the City Manager about this prior to our rate
adjustments, and there seems to be some differing opinions on the purposes of
the golf cart fees. Besides the green fees that you pay and the golf cart
rentals you pay an additional - it is going to be increased from 25(t for the
first 9 to 50(t for the first 9, right? And apparently some people in the
community who own their own golf carts and pay this additional charge, were
under the impression that the monies were to be used for cart trails, and in
checking into it I find out that this is not the case, so.."
Mayor Usher said, "I don't know how a 25(t fee would ever possibly
build it in the first place."
Commissioner Cooper said, "Well, I am not debating that point, Bill, I
am only saying that the people who are being charged the fee and who are paying
the fee, were under the impression that the monies were to be earmarked for
purposes of golf trails. This is just simply a users fee to take their carts out
onto the golf course, and for purposes of clarification, so that when they pay it
there won't be any further misunderstanding, this is the only reason I mention it."
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The City Manager said, "Well, for clarification, and so there won't be
any misunderstanding, as I told you, it was my understanding that these rates
were never committed either verbally or by ordinance form or resolution or any
other form for that intended purpose. There was some conversation at the time
the golf course was constructed that it would certainly be nice if we had some
asphalt runs for the carts, and this was generally concurred with; but there
was, to my knowledge, never a commitment by the then City Commission, or
administration or anybody else, a commitment or an inference that this is what
this charge was to be used for. Now, if there was, there was certainly no one
directed to make such a statement or to make such an inference, to my knowledge."
Commissioner Cooper said, "Well, I don't know. I am only telling you
that I had heard from people who paid the fee, and they were saying that they
had been told that this was for cart trail purposes and I am just trying to clear
the records to say that this is simply a users fee. The money is not being
earmarked or set aside for cart trails."
A RESOLUTION was introduced and passed entitled: "A RESOLUTION
authorizing and establishing certain charges for the operation of the Gypsum
Hill Cemetery." A motion was made by Commissioner Losik, seconded by
Commissioner Caldwell to adopt the Resolution as read and the following vote was
had: Ayes: Caldweâ–ºl, Cooper, Losik, Weisgerber, Usher (5). Nays: (0). Carried.
The Mayor approved the Resolution and it is numbered 3210.
Bill Harris raised the questions of not having the cemetery rates go
into effect until January 1, 1975, 11that with publicizing it, and naturally it
will be, that the price of these lots is going to be increased, but will not be
effective until the first of the year, in other words we might have a run on the
bank in the mean time in order to pick the lots up at the present cost."
Commissioner Losik commented, "Oh, I think it is a risk we would have
to take. I think across the board, overall, there would be purchased, some
resold, so forth, I am just thinking maybe it might not effect us that much. It
is a good thought though."
Commissioner Losik also commented, "It might not hurt to have the news
media stress a little bit, if they would, to help us on these cemetery rates,
as to how a portion of the sale of the lots is going into a perpetual care fund
so that it would be clearly understood by all."
Mayor Usher said, "I would like the community to know that it has been
many years since we have had a chance to increase or at least re -adjust our fees
and we have seen some fantastic increases in cost, so unfortunately it seems like
our increases are going to be astronomical when you relate it back to what you
were paying, but we have been subsidizing some of these areas long enough, and
although we don't make a profit in some of these areas, we try to come close
enough to breaking even."
None
(I PETITION
of the preliminary
motion was made by
refer the petition
Motion carried.
COMMISSION AGENDA
PUBLIC AGENDA
NUMBER 3450 was filed by Michael J. Maloney for the approval
plat of the Maloney Addition to the City of Salina, Kansas. A
Commissioner Weisgerber, seconded by Commissioner Cooper to
to the City Planning Commission. Ayes: (5). Nays: (0).
PETITION NUMBER 3451 was filed by Allen J. Hocking for the incorporatio
within the limits of Salina, Kansas, for general commercial use, the South 14
acres of the East half of the Southwest Quarter of Section 15-14-3, lying west of
the right-of-way of I -35-W. A motion was made by Commissioner Losik, seconded by
Commissioner Weisgerber to refer the petition to the City Planning Commission.
Ayes: (5). Nays: (0). Motion carried.
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PETITION NUMBER 3452 was filed by Allen J. Hocking for the rezoning of
the South 14 acres of the East half of the Southwest Quarter of Section 15-14-3
lying west of the right-of-way of 1-35-W from District "A" (County Zone) to
District "EE" (Local Service District). A motion was made by Commissioner Losik,
seconded by Commissioner Caldwell to refer the petition to the City Planning
Commission. Ayes: (5). Nays: (0). Motion carried.
PETITION NUMBER 3453 was filed by the property owners in the benefit
district for the improvement of East Crawford Street, protesting the proposed
method of assessing the adjoining property owners the major portion of the cost
of replacing this portion of a main east -west trafficway in the City. A motion
was made by Commissioner Weisgerber, seconded by Commissioner Caldwell to refer
the petition to the City Engineer for checking. Ayes: (5). Nays: (0). Motion
carried.
A MOTION was made by Commissioner Losik, seconded by Commissioner
Caldwell that the Regular Meeting of the Board of Commissioners be adjourned.
Ayes: (5). Nays: (0). Motion carried.
D. L. Harrison, City Clerk
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