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22-11095
BACKGROUND:
CITY OF SALINA
REQUEST FOR CITY COMMISSION ACTION DATE TIME
01/10/2022 4:00 P.M.
8 ORIGINATING DEPARTMENT:
Community & Development
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2 Building Services Division
BY: Sean Pilcher SJ I�
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On April 9, 2007 the Salina City Commission adopted Ordinance No. 06-10323, requiring the licensing
of building contractors, specialty contractors and registered craftsmen. These requirements are found
in Chapter 8, Article III; Sections 8-171 through 8-200.4 of the Salina Municipal Code (SMC). The
ordinance established licensing categories, testing requirements, insurance requirements, and
continuing education requirements, as well as enforcement, discipline, expiration and renewal of a
licenses. The Building Advisory Board (BAB) played an active role in making final recommendations
to the City Commission following BAB public meetings and study sessions over a period of time
beginning in the spring of 2005 and concluding in the fall of 2006.
The enclosed charts show current licensing categories, and summarize general requirements and the
available test for each license category.
• A test administered by a nationally recognized testing agency (Test) or possession of a
bachelor's degree in engineering, architecture, construction management or construction
science from an accredited college or university (Related Degree) is required for all Class A, B,
& C Contractors and all Specialty Contractors. Specific tests are required and are shown on
Exhibit A. A minimum score of 75% is required to be considered a passing test score.
• Specialty Contractors are listed as concrete, framer or erector, roofing, masonry, fire sprinkler,
fire alarm & communications, demolition, sign, right -of way and swimming pool.
• A, B, & C contractors can perform any of the specialty contractor or registered craftsman work
except for swimming pools, lawn/landscape irrigation, fire alarm & communication systems, fire
sprinkler systems, and hood and spray booth suppression systems.
• Continuing Education requirements apply to the Class A, B, & C contractors which are general
building contractors. Six hours per year, or 18 hours of continuing education over the 3 year
licensing period is required to be met by the declared qualified individual as listed on the license.
• Specialty Contractors are not required to obtain continuing education credits.
• Proof of minimum liability insurance is required for all licensed contractors and registered
craftsmen. Current requirement: $500,000 general liability insurance.
Current Problem
Prometric is the testing company that the City of Salina refers contractors to in order to take
construction exams for Specialty Contractors not offered by the International Code Council (ICC) or
the National Institute for Certification in Engineering Technologies (NICET). ICC provides testing for
A, B & C Contractors as well as Specialty License types of Concrete and Roofing. NICET provides
testing for hood and spray booth suppression, fire sprinkler, and Fire alarm/ communication. Prometric
provided testing for Framers/Erectors, Masonry, Demolition, Swimming Pool and Lawn/Landscape
Irrigation.
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CITY OF SALINA
REQUEST FOR CITY COMMISSION ACTION DATE TIME
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ORIGINATING DEPARTMENT:
Community & Development
Services
Building Services Division
BY: Sean Pilcher
Exams offered
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hood/spray booth suppression, fire
sorinkler. Fire alarm and communication
concrete
Prometric (no longer offered as of August framer/erector, masonry, demolition, sign,
1, 2021) swimming pool, lawn/landscape irrigation
As of August 1, 2021, Prometric no longer provides any construction testing of any type. Under the
current code, Class A, B, C contractors can perform specialty contractor scopes of work with the
exception of, fire alarm & communication systems, fire sprinkler systems, and hood and spray booth
suppression systems. Of that list, Swimming Pools and Lawn/Landscape Irrigation have no test
available to grant a specialty contractor license. (SMC Section 8-172.1 Chart 1 Specialty Contractors)
The table below shows how surrounding communities that have contractor licensing are handling the
lack of testing options.
Kansas Plumbing Heating and Cooling Contractors (KPHCC) provides an exam created by K -State
for Lawn/Landscape Irrigation and Irrigation.org offers a class and test to be Certified Irrigation
Designer (CID). Other communities let licensed plumbing contractors install irrigation systems.
For Swimming Pool Contractors, other communities allow class A, B, & C General Contractors install
swimming pools and do not require special testing. Partly because there is no test readily available
and because the skills needed are similar to other construction requirements. A licensed electrician
is still required to perform all electrical, grounding and bonding of the pool work and nearby surfaces.
At this time there are no other testing options available for Framers/Erectors, Masonry, or Demolition
contractors, but these types of specialty disciplines can legally be done by A, B, & C General
Contractors as currently written in Salina Municipal Code. Current license holders in the city include:
6 Masonry, 7 Framer/Erector, and 3 Demolition contractors. As noted in the draft ordinance, these
specialty contractor license holders who took the Prometric test will remain valid, provided they renew
their licenses without interruption. If new specialty contractors come to Salina and apply for license,
they will need to either provide certification of passage of A, B, & C General Contractor test (Provided
by ICC) or provide proof of a related degree.
Lawn/Landscape Irrigation
Swimming Pool
Salina
No test / not allowed by any
other type of license
No test / not allowed by any
other type of license
Has
Licensed plumbing contractor
ABC Contractor
Wichita
KPHCC/KSU Test
ABC Contractor
Topeka
Irrigation.org test
ABC Contractor
Manhattan
Licensed plumbing contractor
ABC Contractor
At this time there are no other testing options available for Framers/Erectors, Masonry, or Demolition
contractors, but these types of specialty disciplines can legally be done by A, B, & C General
Contractors as currently written in Salina Municipal Code. Current license holders in the city include:
6 Masonry, 7 Framer/Erector, and 3 Demolition contractors. As noted in the draft ordinance, these
specialty contractor license holders who took the Prometric test will remain valid, provided they renew
their licenses without interruption. If new specialty contractors come to Salina and apply for license,
they will need to either provide certification of passage of A, B, & C General Contractor test (Provided
by ICC) or provide proof of a related degree.
CITY OF SALINA
This code amendment was brought before the Building Advisory Board (BAB) at the December 14th
meeting. During the meeting, the Board discussed many different areas of Specialty Contractor testing
requirements including those of Swimming Pool Contractors and Lawn/Landscape Irrigation
Contractors. The board went over each license type affected by the Prometric change, and decided
it was best to keep the amendment as written with the only change allowing Class A, B & C Contractors
to install swimming pools. The Board decided to leave Lawn/Landscape Irrigation Contractors alone
and not add them to the list of work done by A, B & C Contractors since there is an alternative test to
Prometric for them through the KPHCC.
Another option brought to the BAB was to allow the Specialty Contractor license types affected to
become Registered Contractors. This means that no testing would be required and only proof of
insurance would be needed to obtain a license. After much discussion, the Board agreed to not
recommend any changes to other license types and keep the requirement that without available
testing, Class A, B & C Contractors, or currently licensed Specialty Contractors would be needed to
perform specialty work.
The board decided by a vote of 7-0 to recommend adoption of ordinance #22-11095
Staff has prepared SMC chapter 8 code amendments for review that would allow A, B, & C General
Contractors to install swimming pools. Other license types would remain unchanged.
FISCAL NOTE:
No fiscal cost to the city for adoption of this ordinance.
COMMISSION ACTION OR RECOMMENDED ACTION:
Staff has identified the following options for the City Commission's consideration:
1. Vote to adopt ordinance 22-11095 as drafted, amending Chapter 8, Article III, Division 2,
Sec. 8-172.1 Chart 1 of the Salina Municipal Code to allow class A, B, & C general
contractors to install swimming pools.
2. Vote to adopt ordinance 22-11095 with amendments as directed, amending Chapter 8,
Article III, Division 2, Sec. 8-172.1 Chart 1 of the Salina Municipal Code to allow class A, B,
& C general contractors to install swimming pools.
3. Vote to not adopt ordinance 22-11095 so that no changes are made to the Salina Municipal
Code at this time.
Staff recommends Option #1.
Attachments:
Salina Municipal Code Chapter 8, Article III, Division 2, Sec. 8-172.1 Chart 1 (with notation to show
proposed changes)
Ordinance 22-11095 (draft)
December 14, 2021 Building Advisory Board Meeting minutes
CC:file
REQUEST FOR CITY COMMISSION ACTION DATE TIME
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This code amendment was brought before the Building Advisory Board (BAB) at the December 14th
meeting. During the meeting, the Board discussed many different areas of Specialty Contractor testing
requirements including those of Swimming Pool Contractors and Lawn/Landscape Irrigation
Contractors. The board went over each license type affected by the Prometric change, and decided
it was best to keep the amendment as written with the only change allowing Class A, B & C Contractors
to install swimming pools. The Board decided to leave Lawn/Landscape Irrigation Contractors alone
and not add them to the list of work done by A, B & C Contractors since there is an alternative test to
Prometric for them through the KPHCC.
Another option brought to the BAB was to allow the Specialty Contractor license types affected to
become Registered Contractors. This means that no testing would be required and only proof of
insurance would be needed to obtain a license. After much discussion, the Board agreed to not
recommend any changes to other license types and keep the requirement that without available
testing, Class A, B & C Contractors, or currently licensed Specialty Contractors would be needed to
perform specialty work.
The board decided by a vote of 7-0 to recommend adoption of ordinance #22-11095
Staff has prepared SMC chapter 8 code amendments for review that would allow A, B, & C General
Contractors to install swimming pools. Other license types would remain unchanged.
FISCAL NOTE:
No fiscal cost to the city for adoption of this ordinance.
COMMISSION ACTION OR RECOMMENDED ACTION:
Staff has identified the following options for the City Commission's consideration:
1. Vote to adopt ordinance 22-11095 as drafted, amending Chapter 8, Article III, Division 2,
Sec. 8-172.1 Chart 1 of the Salina Municipal Code to allow class A, B, & C general
contractors to install swimming pools.
2. Vote to adopt ordinance 22-11095 with amendments as directed, amending Chapter 8,
Article III, Division 2, Sec. 8-172.1 Chart 1 of the Salina Municipal Code to allow class A, B,
& C general contractors to install swimming pools.
3. Vote to not adopt ordinance 22-11095 so that no changes are made to the Salina Municipal
Code at this time.
Staff recommends Option #1.
Attachments:
Salina Municipal Code Chapter 8, Article III, Division 2, Sec. 8-172.1 Chart 1 (with notation to show
proposed changes)
Ordinance 22-11095 (draft)
December 14, 2021 Building Advisory Board Meeting minutes
CC:file
This is Sec. 8-172.1 Chart from the Salina Municipal Code as adopted with strike through for
proposed deleted text and red font for new text.
Sec. 8-172.1. - Chart I—Building contractor licenses.
Column A
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General contractor work on any buildings, structures and signs; and
specialty contractor work in all specialty classifications except swlwFA+ag
peels, fire alarm & communications systems, fire sprinkler systems, and/or
lawn/landscape irrigation systems, hood and spray booth suppression
systems
General contractor work on any buildings not exceeding 3 stories or
structures not exceeding 65 feet in height, nonstructural alterations or
repairs to any buildings or structures and signs; and specialty contractor
work in all specialty classifications except swiremiag-psek, fire alarm &
communications systems, fire sprinkler systems and/or lawn/landscape
irrigation systems, hood and spray booth suppression systems
General contractor work on one- and two-family residences and their
accessory structures and residential monument or ground signs; and
specialty contractor work in all specialty classifications except swWAwiPg
peek-, fire alarm & communications systems, fire sprinkler systems and/or
lawn/landscape irrigation systems hood and spray booth suppression
systems
The property owner serving as general contractor on jobs requiring a
permit and of a value not is excess of $99,000.00, supervising (a) licensed
specialty or trades contractors for work requiring a specialty or trade
1 license under this article; and/or (b) owner's employees or registered
tradesman for work not requires a specialty or trade license under this
article
On-site forming and placing of concrete for building walls, columns and self-
supporting floors or roofs, retaining walls requiring building permits, and
construction of sidewalks, driveways, curbs and gutters located in any city
right-of-way
Column B
Licenses
Class A -
General contractor
Class B -
General contractor
Class C -
General contractor
Class D -
Contractor/owner
Specialty concrete
contractor
Rough framing of structural and non-structural building components such
as walls, floors and roofs using wood or metal
Installation, repair and replacement of roof coverings, including roof deck
insulation and nonstructural roof decking
Placement of brick, stone, block and other masonry products for building
walls, structural or veneer, and for retaining walls requiring building
permits; and installation, repair, and replacement of masonry fireplaces,
hearths, and chimneys
Installation, maintenance, alteration and repair of fire
sprinkler/suppression systems and related fire protection equipment
Installation, maintenance, alteration and repair of fire alarm systems and
related fire protection equipment
Demolition and removal of buildings and structures
Installation, alteration and repair of permanent signs
'Specialty framer or
erector contractor
Specialty roofing
contractor
'Specialty masonry
contractor
Specialty fire sprinkler
contractor
Specialty fire alarm and
communication
contractor
'Specialty demolition
contractor
'Specialty sign contractor
Construction of sidewalks, driveways, curbs and gutters located in any citySpecialty right-of-way
right-of-way concrete contractor
Installation and repair of permanent in -ground or above -ground swimmin'Specialty swimming pool
pools as defined by city Code contractor
Installation of lawn/landscape irrigation systems Specialty lawn/landscape
irrigation contractor
J
Installation of hood suppression/spray booth suppression Specialty hood
su
ppression/spray booth I
j suppression contractor
' No new specialty swimming pool, specialty framers or erectors, specialty masonry, specialty
demolition, specialty sign, and specialty right-of-way concrete contractor licenses shall be issued after
January 28, 2022, only uninterrupted renewals of the identified licenses issued before January 28, 2022.
***All changes in code are in
(Summary published in The Salina Journal on January _2022)
(Published on the City of Salina's website for a minimum of one week from January _ to _, 2022)
ORDINANCE NO. 22-11095
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 8, ARTICLE III, DIVISION 2 OF THE SALINA
CODE BY REMOVING REQUIREMENT THAT GENERAL CONTRACTORS CANNOT
WORK ON SWIMMING POOLS.
BE IT ORDAINED by the Governing Body of the City of Salina Kansas:
Section 2. Amendment. Section 8-172.1 Chart I of the Salina Code is amended to read as follows:
Sec. 8-172.1 Chart I — Building Contractor Licenses.
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Work
Column B
Licenses
General actor work on any buildings, structures
Class A - General Contractor
Isignsspecialty contractor work in all specialty
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classificaexcept fire alarm & communications
systems, prinkler systems, and/or lawn/yard
irrigation systems, hood and spray booth suppression
systems.
General contractor work on any buildings not
Class B - General Contractor
exceeding 3 stories or structures not exceeding 65 feet
in height, nonstructural alterations or repairs to any
buildings or structures and signs; and specialty
contractor work in all specialty classifications except
fire alarm & communications systems, fire sprinkler
systems and/or lawn/yard irrigation systems, hood and
a booth su ression s stems.
neral contractor work on one and two family
Class C - General Contractor
idences and their accessory structures and residential
rcommunications
nument or ground signs; and specialty contractor
rk in all specialty classifications except fire alarm &
systems, fire sprinkler systems and/or
lawn/yard irrigation systems, hood and spray booth
suppression systems.
The property owner serving as general contractor on
Class D - Contractor/Owner
jobs requiring a permit and of a value not is excess of
$99,000, supervising (a) licensed specialty or trades
contractors for work requiring a specialty or trade
license under this Article; and/or (b) owner's
employees or registered tradesman for work not
Leguires a specialty or trade license under this Article.
On-site forming and placing of concrete for building
Specialty Concrete Contractor
walls, columns and self-supporting floors or roofs,
retaining walls requiring building permits, and
construction of sidewalks, driveways, curbs and gutters
located in ancit ri ht of way.
Rough framing of structural and non-structural building 'Specialty Framer or Erector
components such as walls, floors and roofs using wood Contractor
or metal.
installation, repair and replacement of roof coverings,
including roof deck insulation and nonstructural roof
Contractor
Placement of brick, stone, :b1oc:kand other masonry SilMntractor
productsforbuilding wallsural or veneer, and
for retaining walls requirining permits; and
installation, repair, and repnt of masonryfire laces, hearths, and chi
Installation, maintenance, alteration and repair of fire Specialty Fire Sprinkler
sprinkler/suppression systems and related fire Contractor
Installation, maintenance, alteration and repair of fire Specialty Fire Alarm and
alarms stems and related fire nrotection eauinmrnt
Demolition and removal of buildfinandstructuEV
Demolition Contractor
Installation, alteration and repair ent sigSign Contractor
Construction of sidewalks, driveways, curbs and gutteRight-of-Way
located in any city right-of-way. ontractor
Installation of
suppression
repair of permanent in -ground or
systems
booth
Suppression/Spray Booth
'No new specialty swimming pool, specialty framers or erectors, specialty masonry, specialty
demolition, specialty sign, and specialty right-of-way concrete contractor licenses shall be issued
after January 28, 2022, only uninterrupted renewals of the identified licenses issued before January
28, 2022.
Section 4. Effective. That this ordinance shall be in full force 90 days following its adoption and
publication once in the official city newspaper by the following summary:
Ordinance No. 22-11095 Summary
On January 24, 2022 the City Commission passed Ordinance No. 22-11095. The Ordinance
amends Chapter 8, Article III of the Salina Code, by removing text so that General Contractors
can perform work on swimming pools. A complete copy of the ordinance can be found at
www.salina-ks.gov or in the office of the City Clerk, 300 W Ash Street, free of charge. This
summary is certified by the City's legal counsel.
Introduced: January 10, 2022
Passed: January 24, 2022
Trent W. Davis, M.D., Mayor
[SEAL]
ATTEST:
JoVonna A. Rutherford, City Clerk
Certification of Publication Summary:
Greg Bengtson, Legal Counsel
City of
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BUILDING ADVISORY BOARD
CITY -COUNTY BUILDING, ROOM 107
DECEMBER 14, 2021
3:00 P.M.
1. CALL TO ORDER / KOMA CONFIRMATION / ROLL CALL
(1.1) Chair Frazier called the meeting to order at 3:00 p.m.
(1.2) Chair requests staff confirmation that Kansas Open Meeting Act required notice has been
Properly provided.
Allison Hamm confirmed that the packet was posted and the required notice of the meeting
was provided.
(1.3) Roll Call
Board Members Present:
Mike McCall (Chair), William McBride (Vice -Chair), Kevin Cool, David Holmgren, Scott Krous,
David Miller, Greg Nichols
Board Members Absent:
Mark Frazier, Rick Walters
City Staff Present:
Sean Pilcher, Building Official; Allison Hamm, Permit Technician
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
(2.1) Approval of the Minutes of the October 12, 2021 regular meeting.
A motion was made to approve the minutes of the October 12, 2021 by David Miller,
seconded by Kevin Cool and carried by vote.
3. NEW BUSINESS
Public Hearing Items
• Quasi -Judicial Matters
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• Legislative Matters
(3.2) Proposed text amendment for contractor licensing
Sean Pilcher, Building Official, presented the staff report contained in today's meeting packet
Mike McCall asked if the only thing changing was that general contractors would now be
allowed to build swimming pools.
Mr. Pilcher stated correct that was the code amendment they are being asked to review today.
He added that they were also being asked to consider other testing options for contractors who
no longer have Prometric testing available.
Kevin Cool asked if plumbing contractors could do lawn/landscape irrigation work now. Mr.
Pilcher stated plumbing contractors can only install the backflow preventer for the system, but
can't install the whole system.
David Miller asked for clarification on amendment of the code regarding lawn/landscape
irrigation contractors. Mr. Pilcher stated that was correct, they had to take a Prometric test and
carry their own license to do that scope of work. He added that no continuing education was
required, but testing was.
David Miller asked if that test was one not available now. Mr. Pilcher stated correct, Prometric
no longer offers that test.
David Holmgren asked if there were other testing options. Mr. Pilcher stated K -State made a
test for lawn/landscape irrigation contractors, but Kansas Plumbing, Heating & Cooling
Contractors (KPHCC) are the ones who provide the test.
Mike McCall asked if that test was different than the irrigation test offered by Prometric. Mr.
Pilcher stated they were two different tests, but were similar in nature.
David Miller stated he would still like to see a test offered for lawn/landscape irrigation
contractors.
Mr. Pilcher stated he's looked at the overview for the test, but hasn't seen the actual test. He
added the Prometric test and K -State test are similar in nature and should accomplish the
same thing.
Mr. Pilcher stated if the Board is fine with that staff will move forward with referring contractors
to that test option in the future.
David Miller asked if any action was needed. Mr. Pilcher stated no action is needed unless
they would prefer to allow plumbing contractors to do lawn/landscape irrigation work, which
would then require a code change.
Greg Nichols asked if the original lawn/landscape irrigation test was only offered by Prometric.
Mr. Pilcher stated it was the only one the City accepted. He added that nobody had provided
any test or credential other than that one.
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Greg Nichols asked if that was the only authorized test and it's no longer available then
contractors now have no ability to obtain a lawn/landscape irrigation license. He then asked if
that means action needs to occur for them to continue being able to obtain licensing.
Mr. Pilcher stated it doesn't require a code change, so no action is really needed. He added
that the question today is if they want to accept other tests or follow in the footsteps of other
communities that allow plumbing contractors to do the work.
Greg Nichols asked for clarification that a code change is not needed to change the testing
option and can be done administratively. Mr. Pilcher stated that was correct.
David Miller asked if plumbing contractors needed to take the test to allow them to do irrigation
work, or would they be grandfathered in. Mr. Pilcher stated a plumber carries a separate
license, so no they would not be grandfathered in.
William McBride stated he prefers the plumbing contractors and lawn/landscape irrigation
contractors stay separate as well.
Mr. Pilcher asked for confirmation that they were just changing the testing options at this time.
The Board agreed on changing the testing options for lawn/landscape irrigation contractors.
Mr. Pilcher stated that item didn't require any action, however, the item that requires action
pertains to allowing general contractors to build swimming pools.
MOTION: Greg Nichols moved to accept the draft ordinance that removes swimming
pool exceptions for Class A, B and C contractors.
SECOND: David Holmgren
VOTE: Motion Carried (7-0)
Mr. Pilcher stated framers/erectors, demo and masonry contractors no longer have a test
option, however, that scope of work is already covered under Class A, B and C contractors. He
added that if someone wishes to obtain any of those specialty licenses they would need to
pass a Class A, B or C contractor test of have a related degree.
Mr. Pilcher stated there was also talk of listing those specialty contractors as registered
craftsman without a test requirement.
Mr. Pilcher stated the amendment pertaining to allow swimming pool work under a Class A, B
or C contractor license will go before the City Commission on January 3, 2022 in order to allow
input from the Board first.
Greg Nichols stated framing/erecting is already an important part of holding a Class A, B or C
contractor license. He added he is not worried about the demolition one if someone is
demolishing an entire structure, but would be concerned if it was only a partial demolition due
to the structural integrity of the rest of the building that a contractor would need to know how to
handle.
Greg Nichols stated masonry would fall under Class A, B and C as well.
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Mr. Pilcher asked if the Board was in favor of not changing the code on those licenses either
and leaving it as is until other testing options are available for those specialty contractors.
David Miller asked what the possibility was of new tests coming in.
Mr. Pilcher stated swimming pools was the closest one to offering a test with another being
offered by PSI. He added that they do some construction testing currently and close to having
one for swimming pools, however, he isn't aware of any other test options.
David Miller asked if insurance companies look at these companies before insuring them to
verify competency.
Mr. Pilcher stated he wasn't sure what these companies looked at as far as competency.
David Miller stated he would hate to see someone come from out of town without the same
credentials as the local contractors. He added that it seems there is no choice but to stay with
requiring testing or credentials similar to A, B or C contractors.
Mr. Pilcher stated a contractor can still submit a related degree in lieu of taking a test for any of
those specialty contractor licenses.
Greg Nichols stated a framer/erector can still come in and work under a general contractor's
license still giving them insurance coverage from that general contractor.
Mr. Pilcher said that would generally work unless it is a smaller project where only that
specialty is needed and there is no general contractor.
Administrative Items
(3.3.1) New foundation design
Sean Pilcher, Building Official, presented the staff report contained in today's meeting packet
David Miller brought up previous discussions regarding the perforated pipe drain and that he
recalls it being decided to be placed inside under the slab due to groundwater hitting the slab
before it gets to the drain.
Mr. Pilcher stated drains are typically installed inside and that the drain is required whether
inside or outside. He added that most of the time it is placed inside due to the radon mitigation
system requirement.
Mr. Pilcher clarified that it should state it is optional inside or outside and will have staff watch
out for that in the field.
Greg Nichols asked if when it states "optional" if that means whether they need it or not.
Mr. Pilcher stated it's optional either inside or outside, however, both are required if close to
the levee.
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David Miller asked if this was an action item. Mr. Pilcher stated he can get with the engineer to
change the drawing to make it clearer. He added there's no action needed it is just
informational about what is going on in the department.
(3.3.2) Residential all -roughs inspection
Sean Pilcher, Building Official, presented the staff report contained in today's meeting packet.
Preliminary Discussion Items
None
4. UNFINISHED OR OTHER BUSINESS
None
5. PUBLIC FORUM
6. ADJOURNMENT
A motion was made to adjourn the meeting by David Miller, seconded by Greg Nichols and carried
by vote.
The meeting adjourned at 3:40 p.m.
Mark Frazier, Chair
ATTEST:
Sean Pilcher, Building Official
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